Curse

YourDaddy · Jan 03, 2007, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Anyone who plays a fair amount of PVP is probably getting close to maxing out on Balth's Faction (i.e. 100% skill and item unlock) at which point they won't be able to earn any more faction.

This is too bad as the next chapter is still a long way off.

Possibily the inability to earn faction isn't seen as a big deal by the GW devs since this issue hasn't been addressed despite being 3 chapters into the game.

If that's the case I'd like to point out that anything you earn or acquire as part of a game adds to the fun. And anything you remove takes some of the fun out of it.

So, please, add some additional way to spend/use balth's faction. This will allow players to continue earning faction after 100% unlock.

Maria The Princess · Jan 03, 2007, 07:10 AM // 07:10

i say give us the possiblity to unlock 15k armors

fun for PvPers to create a pvp toon in cool looking armors, and fun for PVEers to unlock the 15k armors and try out mixtures on pvp toons, before actually buying the armors

like the elite skills, make it 3k factions per piece maby?

also would be fun to unlock black and white dyes, make it 10k factions, but u can use it unlimited on all pvp characters.

how about saving dye templates (avalble on pvp equipment only) where the dyes are free like for all pvp equipment, but to save a mix (lets say red+purple+black) would cost 3k factions. then this dye template is avalble to all pvp armors u create in future, so u can use the normal dyes avalble, or you can "apply dye template [pink]"

Edit- oh and to make it more *special* make those avalible only *AFTER* YOU UNLOCKED EVERY SINGLE SKILL AND ELITE

Shadow of Light · Jan 03, 2007, 07:10 AM // 07:10

At the moment I think the only thing *left* to 'unlock' would be weapon skins. Skins don't affect pvp in any way, though.

GitakaRen · Jan 03, 2007, 07:13 AM // 07:13

Yup, something unimportant that requires alot of faction would keep the players busy accumulating faction for a long time. The stuff I see possible would be like:
- Unlockable weapon/armor skins
- Unlockable pets?
- Unlockable emotes/auras/whatever

Navaros · Jan 03, 2007, 07:13 AM // 07:13

This has been suggested billions of times on the Suggestion board.

Teger · Jan 03, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

i say give us the possiblity to unlock 15k armors

fun for PvPers to create a pvp toon in cool looking armors and fun for PVEers cuz we can unlock the 15k armors and try out mixtures on pvp toons, before actually buying the armors

like the elite skills, make it 3k factions per piece maby?

15k is really a prestige thing...what would be the point of buying it if everyone could just run around in it for a paltry 3k balth a peice? What WOULD be nice is if they re-introduced those collectors that they had during the NF preview that took victory tokens or whatnot, except make them take balth faction...1k balth for a firewater, or a creme brule, and 5k for a 5k flames of balthazar, then 10 flames of balth for a sigil, sort of like the preview, except with balth faction...Would be a nice reward imho.

Rok · Jan 03, 2007, 07:20 AM // 07:20

Exactly. Skins don't affect PvP. PvPers already get it easier than PvE. Skins are the only thing besides non PvP title that PvE gets. PvP was given their own title to increase the amount of B faction they can hold, and faction is easy to get - I am full just from snowballin'

Also, this should be in the suggestion forum not Riverside.

Maria The Princess · Jan 03, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by Teger

15k is really a prestige thing...what would be the point of buying it if everyone could just run around in it for a paltry 3k balth a peice? What WOULD be nice is if they re-introduced those collectors that they had during the NF preview that took victory tokens or whatnot, except make them take balth faction...1k balth for a firewater, or a creme brule, and 5k for a 5k flames of balthazar, then 10 flames of balth for a sigil, sort of like the preview, except with balth faction...Would be a nice reward imho.

well, dont forget that skins really matter in pve only. getting 15k in gold takes as much time as getting 3k (or 5?) factions, and dont forget that the pvp only characters cant leave the pvp areas, therefor in all the towns and outusts its pve only characters, which cant acces pvp equipment

of curse skins dont matter in pvp (they dont really matter in pve either unless u like to show off

) but it could give the pvpers something more to unlock and have fun with

oh ya, and the very 1337 pvpers wouldnt know whos from pvp or pve anymore either so less flaming in HA etc

YourDaddy · Jan 03, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28

I didn't realize how many times this had been suggested before.

Why hasn't GW responded 18 months into the game I wonder?

So, yeah, there are lots of possibilities. Personally I'd be happy with anything I could spend Balth's faction on at this point. 10k balths for Gwen's Flute? Sure :-)

YourDaddy · Jan 03, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

Actually part of the problem is that it takes so much LESS time to earn faction now that it's been doubled again.

To use 15k armor bits as an example... You'd need 5 figures of balths to make it comparable to 15k gold in terms of time.

Teger · Jan 03, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34

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Originally Posted by YourDaddy

I didn't realize how many times this had been suggested before.

Why hasn't GW responded 18 months into the game I wonder?

So, yeah, there are lots of possibilities. Personally I'd be happy with anything I could spend Balth's faction on at this point. 10k balths for Gwen's Flute? Sure :-)

I have one of those on my ranger...I use it when hes trapping...lol.

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Originally Posted by maria the princess

well, dont forget that skins really matter in pve only. getting 15k in gold takes as much time as getting 3k (or 5?) factions, and dont forget that the pvp only characters cant leave the pvp areas, therefor in all the towns and outusts its pve only characters, which cant acces pvp equipment

of curse skins dont matter in pvp (they dont really matter in pve either unless u like to show off ) but it could give the pvpers something more to unlock and have fun with

oh ya, and the very 1337 pvpers wouldnt know whos from pvp or pve anymore either so less flaming in HA etc

I would say unless UW is open and you get a bit lucky, 3k balth is much easyer to come by then 15k gold. As for the second point...yeah, that might be nice...except that mine is dyed black >.> Plus, what would happen once you had unlocked all the 15k armors with the 50k or so balth youv got banked up? More threads like this would just pop up

Sli Ander · Jan 03, 2007, 07:35 AM // 07:35

Yay! I get to be the guy to say it! *ahem* This needs to be put in Sardelac, with all the other threads which say the same thing. Thank you.

Seriously, it has been suggested before(and though my opinion matters naught, as I don't pvp much) but I wouldn't mind pvp guys getting armor unlocks. Any other type (such as the item trader) would have to be carefully thought out so it wouldn't be over done(i.e. easier to get ale from balth faction than trader)

But that's just my two cents

Teger · Jan 03, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

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Originally Posted by Sli Ander

Yay! I get to be the guy to say it! *ahem* This needs to be put in Sardelac, with all the other threads which say the same thing. Thank you.

Seriously, it has been suggested before(and though my opinion matters naught, as I don't pvp much) but I wouldn't mind pvp guys getting armor unlocks. Any other type (such as the item trader) would have to be carefully thought out so it wouldn't be over done(i.e. easier to get ale from balth faction than trader)

But that's just my two cents

during the NF preview, winning battles in RAs got you 5 victory tokens, which you could spend to get firewater, creme brule, flames of balth(for about 10 wins), or sigils (for a lot...). It was a nice reward, and it would be kinda nice if you could spend your faction on something usefull, like firewater for the drunk title, or flames of balth to sell to those less 1337 people who hadnt capped their faction

Arkantos · Jan 03, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

1) Suggestions belong in Sardelac
2) Been suggested before.